Like Lovers Do Podcast

This podcast features conversations inspired by Joy Thunder’s first book of poems, I Will come for you.

We talk of ritual, love, community, overcoming trauma, and the work of sacred sexuality. We welcome you to an intimate peek behind the scenes, with guests who have inspired the poems and walk among their pages.


“i am a lover to many-handed entities,
dream-spinners lion-hearts and whores,
(…) and i write to proclaim
do not rest till you’ve found
the love that shatters reality”

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Rupture - rituals to return from the edge

In this episode we reflect on the chapter called  - Rupture - Not there with Levitie, and talk of our time in spaces of fragility and loss .

I recorded this at the closing of another season of community life on Samothraki. By then Levitie and I had shared 8 months on this Greek island of savage windblown beauty, living in one communal room, caring for temple spaces or hibernating in a vast home with 8 other people. We talk about the portal of grief, as individuals and community, and how we coax each other back into the home of our bodies. We talk of our teachers in the art of love, in sweetness and the poison, and the rituals that helped us return from the edge of pain and loss.

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Initiation - the tremor of being no one and nothing

In this episode we reflect on the chapter called - Initiation - with Ashisha, who facilitates the Temple Initiations in Samothraki.

We reflect on how initiation is an invitation of love to step into the unknown. Of the precious intimacy felt in these spaces of dissolving. We talk of the balance of discipline and wildness required to face initiation, and of our own explorations between the dervish life and structure.

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Dakini - coming home through er.tic worship

In this episode we reflect on the Dakini chapter with Mandy Rose, a close ally and colleague during my time as a Tantric Bodyworker.

We speak of the scope of experiences people experience in a tantric session, the bond of trust between practitioner and client, and how this work has touched our own intimate life. We share on themes of feeling humbled, intimacy through dancing contact improv, the interconnectedness of presence in our practices and in the day to day.

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